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Post by Washington FT GM on Mar 11, 2022 10:23:28 GMT -5
I have no problem with it in leagues that have it. I just don't use that facility.
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Post by Bucs Breese on Mar 11, 2022 20:48:49 GMT -5
I’m not a fan of trading salary.
I think a tourny or comp picks would be good incentive to keep lineups updated all season. I took over a winless team 5 weeks into the season. It would make sense to stop updating my lineup by week 8, which I found some teams doing later in the season. If 3-4 matchups a week are decided before Sunday, the quality of the league takes a hit. I think we can find something to prevent this and maybe comp picks is the right answer.
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Post by Junior-Vap Titans GM on Mar 20, 2022 9:19:48 GMT -5
I like the idea of 1.33 pick for a consolation bracket reward.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2022 13:20:57 GMT -5
A comp pick for the consolation bracket makes sense to me too
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Post by Jacksonville Jaguars - Ryan on Mar 22, 2022 16:09:13 GMT -5
Free drop will be a disaster -- teams with the most money can bid recklessly with no repercussions --
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Post by Jacksonville Jaguars - Ryan on Mar 22, 2022 16:09:55 GMT -5
Comp pick for the consolation bracket is a good idea --
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Post by Rams - Mark on Mar 22, 2022 16:10:42 GMT -5
What about one drop for new owners. Most leagues I am in offer that.
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Post by Jacksonville Jaguars - Ryan on Mar 22, 2022 16:20:18 GMT -5
I personally hate that rule too (I have no power here just expressing my opinion) -- I feel for the new owners but most new owners get to look at the roster before they take over a team -- so they should know what they are getting into. and as someone who has taken over plenty of abandoned teams, you know its abandoned for a reason. no one is gonna give up a league championship roster lol. Again, allowing contracts to be canceled is a slippery slope cause again if the bid wasn't made then someone else would have gladly gotten the player in question previously.
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Post by Rams - Mark on Mar 22, 2022 16:46:15 GMT -5
That isn't necessarily true. When I was asked 3 teams were open, by the time I said yes (within half an hour) I was told all teams had been filled and then told only one was still open. I understand both sides of the issue as I too have been in many leagues and taken over many totally F***ed teams. It makes it a little bit easier for new owners to be competitive quicker and also would make it easier to attract new owners in the future when people leave. Just my opinion and I will live with whatever is decided
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Post by Bengals GM Burkhart on Mar 22, 2022 18:20:24 GMT -5
Was just throwing options out to see what would be the best thing going forward. I can see both sides of it. That's whether is a poll up for it. Trying to give options to all owners that are involved. If teams get in a financial problem this way it would help alottle bit. Teams in financial trouble are not great for the league competition either.
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Post by PanthersGM on Mar 23, 2022 4:10:52 GMT -5
Free drop proposal
There are arguments for and against this proposal that have merit.
Ultimately, I don't believe that owners who have spent beyond their means should be able to escape the consequences of their poor decision making. We are in a salary league and cap management is the pivotal element.
The argument allowing a new owner to have a free drop is one that I can live with but I don't believe that they should be able to bid for that player in the next cycle of FA. An alternative would be to allow the new owner an opportunity to re-structure the cost of contract, an acceptable % cut would have to be negotiated. I understand those that would oppose this on the grounds of the bidding process that previously took place. However, I'm sure that with the benefit of hindsight that the party that lost out will probably have a different opinion about the contract they were offering a year ago, particularly if it was extremely excessive.
On that note it is important to remember that we don't have the agency that NFL GM's have to manage the cap. They manufacture cap space in a variety of ways, so this proposal, with an amendment that protects the league, can be positively viewed as an extension to that kind of financial management.
Stipulations that could be put in place.
1. A cap on the size of the contract that could be dropped. Using $10m as an example, this could potentially free up enough cash for a team in financial bother whilst still impacting those that bid without due care in FA.
2. Real life impact. If the player is still a free agent during a stipulated period, say a few weeks before the season begins, then an opportunity to void the contract could be offered. Antonio Brown and Malik McDowell could be prime examples where this scenario is concerned. If AB is unsigned (in reality) during the period 14.08.22 - 01.09.22, he can be dropped. Some may argue that this would be too late for a team to use the revenue generated from the release towards accumulating FA's, however that in my opinion would be a just penalty and will serve as a future deterrent for anyone looking to manipulate the ruling.
Just a couple of thoughts. If they fail to make any sense or are terribly thought through, I have Covid to blame!!!!
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Post by Bucs Breese on Mar 27, 2022 14:51:27 GMT -5
Great post Panthers.
The ability to manage this many roster spots along with the cap are special about this league. I agree the free drop takes away the strategy piece out of it, and not a big deal if you have a big contract for a year or two, since you can eventually drop that player when you need the money for another player the manager values more.
I could just keep overpaying for top FA QB every 1-2 years and drop them if their production drops or their main WR leaves via FA. I could then sign the next big FA QB. If Russ Wilson is a FA and I sign him to 5 year deal and pay him 30M+ because in 2 years Mahomes is now a FA. Now I just dump Russ and go after Mahomes with no penalty doesn’t seem right.
Anyone with big contracts now are likely gonna vote yes for this.
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Post by Washington FT GM on Mar 28, 2022 8:30:06 GMT -5
Absolutely agree re the free drop, we're responsible for our own cap situation (unless we're not, then a free new GM drop is in order imo) As one who's right on the cap limit and without a QB or RB worth starting I should be advocating the free drop but I'm not. I think I have 3 M spare for 22, I can maybe squeeze another 3/4 of mil from waives depending on cap hit here..
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Post by Bengals GM Burkhart on Mar 28, 2022 8:44:34 GMT -5
Very good posts from everybody. I agree with the capping the free drop because it's not fair to when production goes down and go after someone better on FA. That's exactly right we know the cap we have and the time it takes to run your team on one of these type leagues that's what makes these so much fun and difficult then your regular leagues. I agree with everything you have mentioned in all posts we will just have to see how the poll comes out then go from there but there will be a cap to who you can drop.
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Post by Rams - Mark on Mar 28, 2022 10:53:38 GMT -5
I don't know if this was said but one stipulation should be that you cannot drop someone you signed the previous year. This would keep from adding and cutting the same guy. Also, another thought is that you cannot drop your highest contract. Just for thought
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